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Post by apocalypsesurvival on Feb 16, 2011 23:24:22 GMT -5
Well i cant talk too much about it , but me and my team are basically rebuilding some abandoned places. Like we found this decent size trailer found out in the middle of these woods near were we live. Its about 20 minutes from civilization. We are boarding up the windows putting a lock on it and calling it ours  . Its basically just a quick HQ we can get to and be pretty safe for a short while and figure out our plans. |
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Post by King of the Wastes on Feb 17, 2011 0:53:49 GMT -5
Just you make sure it ain't on private land and won't be missed, no good to get killed by a anger land holder.
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Post by vault72 on Feb 17, 2011 22:17:39 GMT -5
Yes it's good to have a safe rendezvous point but you may want to find a stronger structure such as a cave or underground sewer junction and use the trailer as rally point following the initial calamity, situation dependent. Fire, nuclear, volcanic or collision due to astrological bodies you will want to go underground. All others you will probably want to leave the city and go to the trailer, just remember it is a base of operations not a defensible point unless you place a wall of sand bags 3 feet deep around it. All that you can worry about should you have to use it.
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Post by King of the Wastes on Feb 19, 2011 3:43:03 GMT -5
Be sure to make it clean and replace anything that needs to be replaced. No good falling through the floor. And be sure to put supplies in it and try living out of it for a week so you know what you need and don't need.
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Post by imperator03 on Mar 4, 2011 0:16:15 GMT -5
A better idea would be to have several rendezvous spots depending on the type of disaster you're trying to evade. The place you'd be likely to go to would be different, for example, in a nuclear scenario as it would a pandemic or natural disaster like a tornado or earthquake. An indoor meeting place near civilization as well as an outdoor meeting place near civilization as well as an outdoor meeting place out in the boonies as well as an indoor place out in the boonies should be considered. That gives you the opportunity to meet, decide if you want to bug out, meet in a secluded area and shake off any tails, then finally making it to your safehouse.
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Post by vault72 on Mar 4, 2011 0:42:10 GMT -5
Good points
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Post by imperator03 on Mar 4, 2011 13:30:54 GMT -5
One of the many thing I'm somewhat paranoid about is a flu pandemic. Not that I got in a tizzy over the H1N1 hoax, that was something hyped by the government in order to ease passage of that health care abomination.
So yeah, my first instinct is to bug out at the first sign of people in the middle i.e. not the old or young, start dying. Which isn't too hard as I live in a predominately rural area, but even if I wind up in an urban area, I'll scout out good places to meet in order to exfiltrate.
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Post by vault72 on Mar 5, 2011 2:19:36 GMT -5
H1N1 hoax huh? Tell that to my teenage daughter who was laid up for a week in a near coma and the H1N1 has been around since the 70's and has a flare up about every decade so it wasn't planned to fit a politician's plans. I'm starting to get the impression that your big into conspiricies, you probably think the twin towers was a controlled detonation as well. You've got a good head on your shoulders which is evident. Being in the military for 20 years now, I can say with a straight face that not everything is some government or political parties plot to get you to buy soda or aspirin, wake up people, this is the time to prepare, not debate the issues till the walls collapse around you. This is not a forum to spread one's political views but to discuss what might happen, HOW to be ready for it, WHAT to do the day after and HOW to survive. Don't quip the forums, be a part of the post apocalyptic earth community. Don't mean to sound as if I'm attacking anyone, I just have to many conspiricy nuts in my family and grow tired of the unsupported drivel that spews from their mouths.
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Post by imperator03 on Mar 12, 2011 22:52:35 GMT -5
H1N1 hoax huh? Tell that to my teenage daughter who was laid up for a week in a near coma and the H1N1 has been around since the 70's and has a flare up about every decade so it wasn't planned to fit a politician's plans. I'm starting to get the impression that your big into conspiricies, you probably think the twin towers was a controlled detonation as well. You've got a good head on your shoulders which is evident. Being in the military for 20 years now, I can say with a straight face that not everything is some government or political parties plot to get you to buy soda or aspirin, wake up people, this is the time to prepare, not debate the issues till the walls collapse around you. This is not a forum to spread one's political views but to discuss what might happen, HOW to be ready for it, WHAT to do the day after and HOW to survive. Don't quip the forums, be a part of the post apocalyptic earth community. Don't mean to sound as if I'm attacking anyone, I just have to many conspiricy nuts in my family and grow tired of the unsupported drivel that spews from their mouths. H1N1 was a regular flu. I'm assuming your daughter is young? If so, that's one of the targets of the flu. The way the CDC and NHS were making it sound, this was the next Spanish Flu, which didn't kill kids or old people, it killed the young and fit. I had relatives in Mexico City when it first appeared and from what they said, it looked like a regular type of flu. Those deaths in Mexico were from pneumonia and affected mostly the lower class, which is about what you'd expect from the flu. So it was a hoax in the sense that it was a regular kind of flu, not some sort of superbug. Even the CDC started to understand this, which is why in the midst of the hysteria, they changed their story. It wasn't a real pandemic, they said, it was just a way to test how their plan to a real pandemic would work in the real world. Have I ever said that the twin towers was a controlled detonation? Be careful about the assumptions you make. Where we differ is that I see where people (politicians) who crave power have and do use incidents like this (and yes, 9/11 too) to push agendas that would never be voiced; much less implemented if people weren't in a fearful state of mind. While I believe Al Qaeda did the towers, I think that their continued existence is due to both bureaucratic bungling (Operation Anaconda) and something of a planned event. As long as bin Laden is around, you can expect things like the Patriot Act to continue to be renewed. The Patriot Act is probably the most dangerous piece of legislation since the Alien and Sedition Act. So yeah, there is a bit of conspiracy around it, but I'm not spouting stuff about aliens or the Bildergergers or Masons or any of that nonsense. All you really need to understand is that people do things that benefit them. Bureaucrats do things to benefit the bureaucracies they work for, it's called job security. Problem is, there are better and more effective ways to do things. PS Sorry about your daughter. I'm sure that scared the hell out of you and probably still worries you from time to time. But ask yourself this, do you look after her welfare better through a lens of fear, or do you look after her better using reason and logic? I don't have kids, but I have nieces and nephews who are susceptible to the flu, so believe me, I'm not flippant about it. I just try to learn as much about the threat as possible, that way I'm better prepared. |
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Post by King of the Wastes on Mar 13, 2011 4:53:45 GMT -5
Lets get back on topic guys.
Apoc are you still there? Would you mind taking pics of what you have put up so far? I am interested in what you have done so far and with images of it we will get a better look at what you have.
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Post by vault72 on Mar 14, 2011 0:58:10 GMT -5
You have made some good points there Imp, and yes H1N1 is just a different but more virulent form of influenza but influenza is still an annual pandemic. It still serves to be the most deadly pandemic, malaria not so much as normal influenza kills over 35,000 americans each year even with flu shots. No, it didn't scare me, you forget or are unaware that I have been army airborne infantry for 20 years and have experienced or seen damn near everything, alot that I didn't care for  Yes, I understand that people in general, maybe especially politicians do things mainly for themselves, not always, but possibly a majority of the time and will use/work events to forward their agendas but I DO NOT believe that a few in our government would purposely drag things out in order to push an agenda, that takes a majority of capitol hill to make happen and typically only a personal pay raise can acquire that much dedication from so many. Also, you don't have to believe in all conspiracies to be a conspiracist, you only need to believe in one, so by your own admission, I was right in my assumption haha but I do enjoy hearing your viewpoint though, it's different. |
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. Its basically just a quick HQ we can get to and be pretty safe for a short while and figure out our plans.
Yes, I understand that people in general, maybe especially politicians do things mainly for themselves, not always, but possibly a majority of the time and will use/work events to forward their agendas but I DO NOT believe that a few in our government would purposely drag things out in order to push an agenda, that takes a majority of capitol hill to make happen and typically only a personal pay raise can acquire that much dedication from so many. Also, you don't have to believe in all conspiracies to be a conspiracist, you only need to believe in one, so by your own admission, I was right in my assumption 